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goalie_dad
01-06-2009, 02:32 AM
In Goalie Daughter's Girls High School Varsity game tonight, there were 2 occasions where the net was displaced.
First was a bump of the net by an O & D players fighting for the puck. Net was moved about 4" (100mm) on one side. O gained puck on bounce from end boards, turned and shot. Puck went off inside elbow floater, and in. (Had net been in proper position, shot would have hit outside of net.) Referees allowed the goal. (2 Referee & 1 Linesman system without goal judges or replay)
Second was a scrum behind the net with a player ending up on the back of the net, and the net tipping forward on top of goalie. Play was not whistled dead until the net was on top of goalie. (Goalie flat on ice with net on top of shoulders)
Nets are pinned to the ice with pointed pegs about 5/8" deep.
All referees were at least USA Hockey level 3 & have been seen doing High School games for 3+ years. (Our local officials association will not assign referees to High School games with less than a USA level 3)
OK so much for the ranting. Now for the questions:

Several of us at the rink have been talking about replacing the pointed pegs with posts that go through the ice and into the floor. (like those used in the NHL & NCAA)

Are there different resistance posts? (Our nets are fixed with pins for all girls levels (U12 & U14), and at Peewee (U12) and above for boys.

How are nets set (when there are holes in the ice) for lower boys levels (Mites & Squirts) where nets are not pinned?

Are there nets with a lower center of gravity than others?

How do you get the referee's attention when the net is off especially when off just a little? (Goalie was heard saying "Net's Off" in the penalty box area of the ice.)

Do any of you "cheat" by freezing the nets in? (Snow and a little water from the water bottle, or a mouth rinse)

Best way to talk to the referee after a goal when the net was off?

Best way to ask ref to get f***in net off of you?:eek:

By the way game was a victory and goalie daughter had 30 saves on 31 shots:)

Punisher
01-06-2009, 03:12 AM
if the net is a bit off and i notice i will keep yelling it to the ref, if he doesn't react i push the net further out, "accidently",
I rather face a 5 on 4 then a situation that should have been called.

only once did the ref not listen to my remarks and i still got off penaltyfree.

some refs are blind to what happens with the net or the goalie, it's just the way it is, i guess.

Make sure that next time, she keeps calling attention for it and maybe even tell the team that when she's calling 'net's off' one of her players tries to restore it or bump it.

Also i'm the nicest guy on the ice for refs in my league, always have ben, i know many of them due to years of hockey and i can say i'm the guy that gets the most things done by them.
Always be calm, structured and polite, ask why and how, don't start flipping,
keep your cool, one of the things i always do is pick up the puck and hand it to the refs, they appreciate it and it give me a chance to talk to them.

pun.

goalie33
01-06-2009, 10:04 AM
well said punisher,its good to have the reffs on our side once and awile,and gives us a chance to see how there day is going.

Slapshot011
01-06-2009, 11:45 AM
Most of the nets I've played with have the small slip in spikes/peg system but I'd be surprised if the small spikes are more than 1/2" and they pop/slide real easy. If the play is not critical I'll just slide the post back into place (I've gotten used to that from Pickups since no one cares if the net is off unless it is REALLY off). if the play is critical I try to help it out more like Pun mentioned.

My hack league is just 2 refs so it's tougher to see a lot of that stuff. Plus a lot of times one will be talking to people on the bench. Half the time the refs will pop it back on if they can rather than stop the play.

croy33
01-06-2009, 06:37 PM
pun.

of topic, but do you use that to abreviate your name after a post, or is there a pun in that?:p

Punisher
01-07-2009, 03:16 AM
of topic, but do you use that to abbreviate your name after a post, or is there a pun in that?:p

you are the second person to ask me that the first one asked me after 2 years of wondering that.

It is short for punisher, which is with an improbability of 1 to the power of 2.325.158 also is a paronomasia which on its turn is the short version of my nickname, and since i am a very polite boy i sign all my posts with my name or nickname depending on the topic and seriousness of the matter, this however does not mean there is/is not any pun intended.

hope that helps. it sure did for me. :D

pun.

Slapshot011
01-07-2009, 08:42 AM
which is with an improbability of 1 to the power of 2.325.158 also is a paronomasia which on its turn is the short version of my nickname,
pun.

Uhhhhh......... Huh?