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BoltThrower
09-07-2007, 03:03 AM
I recently received the newest addition to my equipment family, a new Battram 5000 Upper Body Pad.

I have been using a Vaughn VP3500 unit which was approximately 10 or more years old up until the arrival of the Battram unit. In the interim I purchased an Itech CPPRO which I sold after three uses because it was just too bulky for me and the belly pad was a bit short. I had also tried on most of the big name companies units. Of those, only the Vaughn Epic was even ever in consideration. Most of the off-shelf units were either entirely too bulky, entirely too hot, or I felt the time needed to break them in adequately was more than I wanted to struggle with. Only the Epic felt somewhat "game ready" off the shelf.

I had all but made a decision to purchase the Epic unit but had a conversation with Scott Battram about his 5000 Upper Body Pad. I already own a set of pads and gloves from Scott and they are top notch. At this time Scott made me aware of his "Pro Finish" option for the unit (though I wasn't aware that's what he was calling it at the time). Covered in a different nylon material (Scott can elaborate on specific materials) and with a different lining that would reduce weight and heat, and breakin time for the unit, as well as a lace in extension for the belly pad and "pro" rib protection. After hearing turnaround time, I was convinced, and the only extras I asked for were that the unit be as "game ready" as possible and that the belly pad be nice and long. Anyone here who has done business with Scott before knows his customer service is second to none and he discussed everything in detail with me regarding the unit, making sure I was getting exactly what I wanted.

The unit arrived at my door a little under 3 weeks after I had placed my order. I pulled it out of the box and was amazed and how well crafted the product was. Not a stitch out of place, the work of a true craftsman. Still I had some concerns though. The units looks bulky to the naked eye just as it does in photos.

Trying it on the first thing I notice in a word - comfort! The soft lining (which is even inside the arms!) made putting the unit on feel akin to wearing a comfortable jacket - albeit a very well padded one! The belly pad length was more than adequate. My biggest concern was that the arms seemed stiff and I was concerned this would hinder mobility on the ice. Also, compared to the 10+ year old Vaughn unit I'd been wearing, anything would seem a little bulky. It didn't seem like breakin would be such a chore as with most of the other units I tried on though. My real impression would come from wearing it on ice.

After the first on-ice session with it, all my concerns were put to bed within 5 minutes. I had difficulty putting my jersey and mask on at first and foresaw that being an issue on ice, but within literally minutes of wear the unit felt like an extension of my body. Again my first thought was comfort but that was immediately followed by "cool", literally not figuratively. The unit is at least 100% cooler than my old Vaughn, which takes up literally 25% less surface area than the Battram unit. At the end of the night, I was amazed to find the unit virtually dry as I took it off - apparently the covering and lining materials have moisture wicking properties as well. The belly pad provided significant overlap with the top of my pants (I wear the C/A outside the pant rather than in), providing additional protection which translated to confidence.

As far as protection goes, this is absolutely the most protective Upper Body unit I have seen with my own eyes. I felt literally nothing that hit me. The pro ribs provide a substantial wrap around the torso, giving additional protection and comfort.

Mobility wasn't really an issue though I thought it would be. The arms loosened up quickly with a little sweat. The only awkward motion was stickhandling and I am certain this will improve with continued wear of the unit. Arms integrate into gloves easily and provide full range of motion.

The only thing I would consider changing on the unit is to make the neck guard lace in as I prefer not to have it there, however it certainly isn't in the way and wouldn't be difficult to cut out if I decided to do so.

In closing, this is easily the best Upper Body unit I have ever owned, the ultimate balance of comfort and protection available right now. I would send literally anyone looking for a new C/A unit to Scott without hesitation. His great customer service and the quality of the product make for a great experience.

I'll be happy to answer any questions, but here are some updated pics of the unit:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/dinerojp/battram/P1000101.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/dinerojp/battram/P1000102.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/dinerojp/battram/P1000104.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/dinerojp/battram/P1000103.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/dinerojp/battram/P1000105.jpg

And the comfy material that lines the C/A's arms and body:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/dinerojp/battram/P1000106.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/dinerojp/battram/Chest-extra.jpg

Candyman
09-07-2007, 11:06 AM
Great review Bolt!
I am in the same situation that you just left. I have a Vaughn 5500 that is about 10 years old as well, and is up for replacing. I will need a new CA shortly, and I can't seem to draw myself away from the great reviews that people are giving the 5000. Keep us up to date with the break in time. Was there an upcharge for the pro-finish?

BoltThrower
09-07-2007, 11:11 AM
Great review Bolt!
I am in the same situation that you just left. I have a Vaughn 5500 that is about 10 years old as well, and is up for replacing. I will need a new CA shortly, and I can't seem to draw myself away from the great reviews that people are giving the 5000. Keep us up to date with the break in time. Was there an upcharge for the pro-finish?

Honestly other than a little bit of loosening up in the arms the thing was game ready out of box. All it took was 5 minutes on the ice for it to feel like a part of my body. I don't expect it will take more than a few uses to completely break in.

As far as upcharge goes, I would rather let Scott do the talking there!

goalie S
09-10-2007, 12:21 PM
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Mobility wasn't really an issue though I thought it would be. The arms loosened up quickly with a little sweat. The only awkward motion was stickhandling and I am certain this will improve with continued wear of the unit. Arms integrate into gloves easily and provide full range of motion.
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With regards to arm mobility, what part of the padding that is holding the arm back from better mobility? Is it the elbow floaters or shoulder wings?

Maybe a question for Scott if it is possible to reduce or modify padding in certain areas to maybe lower protection a little to increase mobility?

BoltThrower
09-10-2007, 12:26 PM
I don't think it's personally any particular part of the arm padding, as it is more flexible in the arms than any store bought unit I tried on, I think it's more a matter of it being new. The next time I wore it stickhandling motion seemed much more natural.

GoalieCrap
09-10-2007, 06:05 PM
Hey Boltthrower,

Nice C/A. I've been thinking about this one for a while. Like you, I tried on every c/a in the store, and found the Epic to be the only one that felt even remotely close to comfortable.

If you can explain a bit about the differences in fit/feel between the Epic and the Battram 5000, I'd really appreciate it. Thanks.

Also, if anyone in the Edmonton area has a Battram 5000 (size L) they wouldn't mind letting me check out, please send me a PM.

BoltThrower
09-10-2007, 06:14 PM
Fit-wise, well, I'm not sure to be honest. My Battram unit is custom made for me so it's like putting on a fine tailored suit. The Epic fit nicely but it had the same traits most stock units had on me - arms a bit too long and belly pad a bit too short. Feelwise they are going to be very similar, though honestly the Battram is more unit than the Epic is. If I had gone custom sixed with Vaughn I'd have been waiting at least 8 weeks. I ended up getting a better Upper, for less money and less time.

Cujo_64
09-11-2007, 11:44 AM
thats a nice c/a man ! i definately likey !!

rob

BoltThrower
09-17-2007, 12:45 PM
Update:

This unit continues to feel more like an extension of the body with each use. Have now taken some pretty heavy shots in the chest, shoulders, elbow and bicep areas without a stinger. I'm convinced this thing could withstand 50 caliber rounds! (Ok, maybe not, but you get the point).

I continue to be beyond satisfied with this purchase.

Scipio
09-17-2007, 01:59 PM
I definatley agree with Bolt. This unit is a tank. The more I play with this c/a the more I love it. I don't think I could ever use anything else after having used this unit.

Irishry39
09-17-2007, 05:50 PM
Is this something that can be retro fitted to an already built 5000 pad?

Gregan
09-18-2007, 12:42 AM
You can definitely have the rib protectors added to the C/A (which I think I will as I was nailed in the ribs again last night...) and you can also get the bottom row of blocks added to the bottom.

The thing that bums me out is I'd have to be an entirely new unit to get it finished in the fancy new materail (which I love!!!).

mike101
11-01-2007, 01:38 PM
I just put this in the first thread "Battram C/A" but realised after there was a Pro Finish Section so thought worth repeating. ..Its nice to see and hear Scott respond so fast to questions and get involved. It installs a lot of confidence. I just ordered a Pro Finsh on Wednesday and without a doubt belive, after hearing all the testimony, comments and issues by users/owners of Battram products and the comments , repairs, advice and commitments made by Scott, I have ordered the best unit on the market. It took me 4 months to make the commitment to buy from Scott and I have no fear I made the wrong decision. Now if the unit could make a martini for my wife, it would be a win win in my house

Jase96
11-06-2007, 10:05 PM
I also just made the plunge for this unit. Should get it in the mail sometime this week. From what Scott tells me it looks fantabulous so can't wait to get it and show it off and it may be featured on his website too... yay!

MadGoalieSkillz0
11-07-2007, 04:36 PM
That C/A looks great. The only thing I don't like about it is the fact that it looks a lot like the Velo, which I tried on in-store and hated.

Is it very similar in feel?

numbah37
11-08-2007, 09:29 PM
I should have mine on Monday.....can't wait to see how cool the pro finish material is.

jbrown414
11-09-2007, 08:36 AM
I'm still waiting on mine to get here. Canada to Texas can be a long trip. I understand that mine will be "pro finish" without the mesh type material. I am ok with that as long as the protection and durability is there.

Sasq24
11-09-2007, 06:35 PM
Hi there everyone i ordered my new C/A 500 pro finish alst week and it is scheduled to be made next week meaning i should have it in about 2-3 weeks.

One question how is the protection on the elbow floaters. I wear TPS bionic right now, last night i took a pretty ahrd shot right in the bend of the elbow. Right between the upper and lower plastic of the floater. There is little to no protection there and it was one of the worst pains i have had as a goalie. How is the protection on the 5000 C/A in that area? thanks!

Scott Battram
11-09-2007, 06:42 PM
If that is you EJ, your upper is being made right now as I type this! Should be done later tonight or tomorrow, because of a delay getting some material we had to juggle our schedule around this week...

-note to others who may have been juggled, it will only involve a 2 day delay on your scheduled production time.

BoltThrower
11-09-2007, 07:31 PM
I have a new camera and will have some new pictures up maybe as soon as tonight!

numbah37
11-09-2007, 08:58 PM
I have a new camera and will have some new pictures up maybe as soon as tonight!


Giddy Up! Let's see them.....

Scipio
11-09-2007, 10:42 PM
Hi there everyone i ordered my new C/A 500 pro finish alst week and it is scheduled to be made next week meaning i should have it in about 2-3 weeks.

One question how is the protection on the elbow floaters. I wear TPS bionic right now, last night i took a pretty ahrd shot right in the bend of the elbow. Right between the upper and lower plastic of the floater. There is little to no protection there and it was one of the worst pains i have had as a goalie. How is the protection on the 5000 C/A in that area? thanks!

I have taken a shot in the same area on my CCM Vector and I know that pain you speak of. After getting the Battram c/a I have taken 2 shots there and haven't had any pain yet. Granted they weren't bombs like i got while in the other c/a but they were decent shots.

jbrown414
11-10-2007, 09:46 PM
Just got mine today. Been wearing it around the house and I can already start to feel it loosen up. It's the pro finsih minus the mesh material. Thank you Scott.

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/jbrown4141/Hockey/101_0755.jpg

BoltThrower
11-11-2007, 03:05 AM
Is yours Pro Spec?

snaz1
11-11-2007, 01:11 PM
Nice looking armor!!!!!!!!!



Mike:)

jbrown414
11-11-2007, 02:29 PM
I asked for pro sized elbow floaters. I don't know if I got them, I'll have to measure them.

Sasq24
11-11-2007, 07:23 PM
If that is you EJ, your upper is being made right now as I type this! Should be done later tonight or tomorrow, because of a delay getting some material we had to juggle our schedule around this week...

-note to others who may have been juggled, it will only involve a 2 day delay on your scheduled production time.

Hey Scott, ya it is EJ here. Thanks for the update. I am eagerly awaiting it!!!!! Impatiently waiting but still very eager!:)

Jase96
11-14-2007, 01:45 AM
Just got mine today in Canuck-colours. I think it looks sweet (then again I'm biased). Here are a few pics. I asked for extra padding in the bicep region.

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd194/jase96/IMG_3385.jpg

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd194/jase96/IMG_3387.jpg

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd194/jase96/IMG_3388.jpg

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd194/jase96/IMG_3389.jpg

mike101
11-14-2007, 07:44 AM
Very nice, the colors look great. I noticed no belly flap, is that due to your height so it was not required ? What do you think of the pro mesh material ?

Scott Battram
11-14-2007, 08:53 AM
With the shorter goalies the belly flap would tend to get in the way, so we do not use it on those units.

By the way, yours is done Mike...

Just need to bill it and ship it out!

mike101
11-14-2007, 01:02 PM
Excellent news Mr. Scott. If you have time for a pic, that would be great.
If not, thats okay too. I have told maybe 50 people is was on the way. I am at the rink 4 nights a week so lots of guys waiting to see it.

Mike - Orleans

Jase96
11-14-2007, 04:32 PM
Very nice, the colors look great. I noticed no belly flap, is that due to your height so it was not required ? What do you think of the pro mesh material ?

I'll let u know when I hit the ice this weekend. I expect it to help with heat management the most, pulling moisture away. It feels very nice on skin (even tho I play in vaughn underwear).

I'm gonna have to figure a new way to wear this with my pants since I can't seem to tuck it in as easily as my old c/a. The belly sections definitely has more girth than my old piece. May have to go untucked now :(

Jim**
11-17-2007, 08:03 AM
I really like the looks of the new PRO version! Congrats!

Jase96
11-19-2007, 03:28 PM
Ok, I've completed 2 ice sessions with the new C/A. It's phenomenal! No stingers, movement is getting easier by the minute (I can touch my opposite ear with it, I couldn't touch my chin in my old C/A). The arms are very light and very easy to move. The chest piece is very solid and I was able to swallow everything in that hit me in the chest region. The pro-finish makes this C/A very cool (literally and figuratively) to wear. I had no heat issues and my vaughn undershirt was pretty much dry when I took my C/A off after the game. I was shocked, it was damp of course but not wet like I was used to. Because I didn't get as hot as I did in the past, I noticed that I was sipping water much less frequently. Didn't have to squirt water down my back or front to cool off either (probably the major reason why my undershirt wasn't wet). I am very happy with my purchase and could not recommend it enough.

BoltThrower
11-25-2007, 12:18 AM
Finally posted some updated pics way back at the beginning of the thread.

BoltThrower
04-23-2008, 02:38 AM
After about 7 or 8 months of use, just wanted to throw in a follow up post.

This unit is still amazing. I tell people often it's the best piece of gear I own. That's saying a lot cause I love all my Battram stuff! Can't imagine wearing another C/A.

west2933
06-16-2008, 01:14 PM
After about 7 or 8 months of use, just wanted to throw in a follow up post.

This unit is still amazing. I tell people often it's the best piece of gear I own. That's saying a lot cause I love all my Battram stuff! Can't imagine wearing another C/A.

Quick question for a noob. how far does the rib protection go?

BoltThrower
06-16-2008, 01:20 PM
I would guess without measuring it that the rip flap extends about 8 inches past the edge of the belly pad. Enough to protect even the biggest of guts like mine.

west2933
06-16-2008, 05:38 PM
what measurements do you need to have before you order the Chest & Arm?

Scott Battram
06-16-2008, 06:30 PM
The measurements we need are located right on the online order form.

Also your height and weight will help us as well!

We need shoulder to elbow
elbow to wrist
adams apple to belly button

west2933
06-16-2008, 07:08 PM
Do you think that i would be possible to have a pro finish C&A to be the same color as the metallic gold V3 C&A?

Frozendisc
06-16-2008, 07:49 PM
The colors should be no issue, as Scott has pretty much every color out there. Be certain to get your measurements real precise, I needed to have the arms shortened just over an inch on mine. Otherwise, the upperbody is great!

GLENNV1
11-09-2008, 05:07 PM
I ordered mine on October 28th & found out it is ready to be shipped today. I cannot wait.

GLENNV1
11-20-2008, 12:45 AM
I received mine on Monday & have been on the ice three times with it. I am really glad I read bolthrower's review before I ordered so I knew exactly what to expect & this unit is everything he said it was & more. His review is absolutely dead on. The only comment I differ in opinion about was the neck. I find it works for me just the way it is.

My camera is broken so I will post a couple of pics at a later date, but mine is red & black right out of the gallery on the website.

I had a couple of hours to play with the adjustments before I first used it but by the time I was ready to play I had everything back exactly as it was shipped.

I have never had a piece of equipment that fit this well & felt perfect after only three uses. This is simply incredible design & workmanship & yes the service is as good as the equipment.

BATTRAM RULES!!!!